lapierre says the only intention behind any legislation is to either tax the weapon or take it. that's what he says. >> well, that's what he says, but that's because what he's trying to do is spin his constituency, his membership, into believing false positives. 74% of nra members believe there should be background checks just like we expect everybody that is behind the wheel of a car to have a driver's license and make sure they're tested and they're driving responsibly. the same thing should be happening with whether or not you're a gun owner. i think that's perfectly responsible. >> and you're making perfect sense, maria teresa. hogan, the vice president spoke with guns on the internet. he said something interesting about the ban on assault weapons versus the ban on high capacity ammunition magazines. take a listen. >> i'm much less concerned, quite frankly, about what you call an assault weapon than i am about magazines and the number of rounds that can be held in a magazine. >> hogan, given the resistance to the idea of an assault weapons ban, do you think the chances are b